Co je meloun?
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Joemaniax - (1) 1.3.2007 2:24
I am asking my friends for some time what is the difference between a fruit and a vegetable. One of them told me about (and) what it sais here.
So, some of you are very wrong comparing a melon with a qucumber. I don't have all the bullshit about their specis... you can google it your self...
But I will tell you this. The biological difference between a fruit and a vegetable is this: what isn't fruit can be named vegetable if it's eatable. So we got to the question of what exactly it's a fruit? A fruit is made after the fecundation of the flower of a plant. So, with this simple lined process, we got the apples, pears, oranges... balh blah. The melon (and the qucumber aswell) are also emerging from a flower. So, here you have two fruits, one named fruit (melon) and the other one named vegetable.
Now we leave the biology domain saying just this: a carrot for example is not a fruit, it's a root... eatable and non fruit, therefore a vegetable!
So why do we concider a tomato or cuqumber a vegetable if they are, basicly, fruits?
I can answer this by saying that, starting at a very long time ago, people were calling vegetable what they could cultivate as food for eating. They had no clue at that time what to do with a tree to multiply it where they whant it. So having some "fruits" only as deserts - delicatesees, the process of cultivating fruits turned the fruits (by selection) thords juicy, sweet plants - eatable as deserts. So, a tomato, allthough it's a fruit it is concidered as being a vegetable.
But the whater melon or the yellow melon can not be concidered vegetables as cooking them woudn't be such a good ideea (baking a melon is actualy quite a nice thing, but frying it on pen.... yaak).
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host - 162.67 (?), 24.6.2006 15:48, zobrazeno: 125742x
Ví někdo co je meloun?Zda ovoce či zelenina?Slyšela jsem,že zelenina,ale nechce se mi tomu věřit.díky za odpověď.
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host - 10.34 (?), 26.6.2006 7:24
Dobrý den. Pozoruhodná otázka. Meloun je samozřejmě zelenina. Latinsky Cucumis melo, čili je příbuzný s okurkou, protože je to čeleď cucurbitaceae, neboli okurkovité. Všeobecně tyto druhy u nás mají název plodová zelenina. Stačí to tak? Prima den Vám přeje Stanislaw:-)
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host - 191.35 (?), 2.7.2006 19:49
A rajče je ovoce!!! Fakt!!! Je to trvalka.
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Josefnovotny - (8), 2.7.2006 23:36
Ještě něco k rozdělení ovoce-zelenina
Toto rozdělení je dosti umělé a z části nelogické. Původně se totiž asi dělily
užitkové rostliny na ty, co se upravují s cukrem ( ovoce) a ty co se upravují solí
(zelenina).
Některé, zejména plodové zeleniny ( rajče,okurky apod.) se upravují i s cukrem, některé ho dokonce obsahují velmi mnoho ( vodní meloun,cukrový meloun). Existuje dokonce jeden druh neplodové zeleniny, který se upravuje zásadně jen cukrem ( rebarbora) aniž cukr obsahuje.
Mám svoje soukromé dělení : pokud je užitková část plod a pokud je rostlina strom, keř nebo trvalka, je to ovoce. Vše ostatní je zelenina. Bohužel ani to neplatí absolutně ( banány jsou bylina)
Pepa
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host - 85.27 (?), 27.8.2006 10:35
Záleží na kriteriu dělení.
Buďto podle charakteru rostliny nebo podle způsobu kuchyňského užití
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host - 191.35 (?), 28.8.2006 20:50
Rajče je fakt trvalka a je to ovoce. Zelenina to je jen z důvodu nižších daní oproti ovoci - vzniklo to historicky v USA.
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host - 230.242 (?), 31.10.2006 14:31
Rozdělení zelenina - ovoce je věcí rozhodnutí Evropské komise, a řídí se tím zdanění a dotace pěstitelům.
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host - 58.162 (?), 11.9.2006 9:06
Meloun je samozřejmě ovoce!!!! :-)
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Joemaniax - (1), 1.3.2007 2:24
I am asking my friends for some time what is the difference between a fruit and a vegetable. One of them told me about (and) what it sais here.
So, some of you are very wrong comparing a melon with a qucumber. I don't have all the bullshit about their specis... you can google it your self...
But I will tell you this. The biological difference between a fruit and a vegetable is this: what isn't fruit can be named vegetable if it's eatable. So we got to the question of what exactly it's a fruit? A fruit is made after the fecundation of the flower of a plant. So, with this simple lined process, we got the apples, pears, oranges... balh blah. The melon (and the qucumber aswell) are also emerging from a flower. So, here you have two fruits, one named fruit (melon) and the other one named vegetable.
Now we leave the biology domain saying just this: a carrot for example is not a fruit, it's a root... eatable and non fruit, therefore a vegetable!
So why do we concider a tomato or cuqumber a vegetable if they are, basicly, fruits?
I can answer this by saying that, starting at a very long time ago, people were calling vegetable what they could cultivate as food for eating. They had no clue at that time what to do with a tree to multiply it where they whant it. So having some "fruits" only as deserts - delicatesees, the process of cultivating fruits turned the fruits (by selection) thords juicy, sweet plants - eatable as deserts. So, a tomato, allthough it's a fruit it is concidered as being a vegetable.
But the whater melon or the yellow melon can not be concidered vegetables as cooking them woudn't be such a good ideea (baking a melon is actualy quite a nice thing, but frying it on pen.... yaak).
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